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NFL Conference Chanpionship and Super Bowl - Prediction Market Options

I was listening to Robert's weekly Q&A this morning. He delved into a couple of angles I would like to explore. Let's get down to it.

When asked about the Super Bowl futures tickets, he said that if you're bullish on a team to win the conference championship then you may be better off taking said team to win the Super Bowl. I'd like to elaborate on this a bit. When you have markets for teams at various stages of elimination, the aggregate effect of each round is normally already taken into account (albeit by approximation so it's not perfect).

When you only have two rounds where the winners of the first play each other after, you can approximate the odds for the first round by taking the four way final winners and splitting the two previous games in the ratio of the relevant participant's odds in the final round. Take for example Seahawks and Rams. Seahawks are reading at about 39c to win the Super Bowl while the Rams are around 26c. Since this is a ratio of 2:3, you can approximate the NFC conference game as Rams 40c Seahawks 60c, which is quite close to the actual split for the NFC conference final. I wouldn't see any advantage of taking either of those team futures as an edge over the upcoming game; it's already been reflected in the final probability. If you are looking to optimise an entry, I would look more in the direction of where liquidity is flowing as that is where you can get better entries.

Where does the edge of a futures entry come in? When you take a team moneyline, you may have a probabilistic edge that is variable depending on how accurately you have estimated it but the payout is constant, it being relative to the position as you took it. Futures positions are different in that the value after it is not fixed. It can be higher or lower but generally it averages around market expectations before the game. If your team was fundamentally undervalued and they showed it in a big game, the value of your position will go up by more than that implies by moneyline before the game. On the other hand if they win but we're underwhelming, the markets may price them down relative to had you taken moneyline.

Nor does it depend only upon the game just played; the results of other games the same round can impact it too. If one team has a quarterback injured during the round, as happened with Bo Nix after the Broncos beat the Bills, that will depressing the Broncos odds and as a result will inflation those of the remaining teams. On the other hand, another team overperforming can reduce the value of your position by proxy, as we saw in the college football playoffs. We had a ticket on Miami to win it all but it didn't appreciate much in value from the semis to the final because Indiana blew out Oregon and whatever about the underlying numbers, the markets priced Indiana aggressively. One could then even potentially hold on to the ticket if one thought the markets overreacted to Indiana.

So the implications for the Super Bowl; the winner is generally expected to be from the NFC, so the final edge from the NFC championship is probably already known. If there is one line that has potential to jump it's Denver as their backup quarterback is an unknown but appears to be very talented. If he puts in a strong performance against the Patriots, I'd expect the Broncos odds of winning to jump more than implied by current moneyline. Just a little play if you're bullish on Denver.

The other thing I wanted to cover very briefly was player props. Robert mentioned that he and the rest of the team are looking for food angles on player props. It appears that player props have been profitable for sharp bettors as they're not priced as tightly. I haven't touched them much because prediction markets equalise the playing field on high volume markets like moneyline, spreads and totals. I have noticed Polymarket has added touchdowns as well as rushing and receiving yard props so we may be able to get some really good entries on them if they manage to pull in enough liquidity. Kalshi has some in game props too but it appears to mainly be touchdowns. Something to keep an eye out for!

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Around around she goes; we she ends, nobody knows. Only truly beatable infinity, unless you believe in luck So The Good Thief lead character explains as he sees the ball chase around the roulette wheel. But it wasn't luck that lost me last night; it was failing to follow my own methodologies for the best decision making in the world of prediction markets.  

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The second error was bankroll percentage. It was a single race in a single state; as such, keeping it closer to 5% made more sense than expending it to 34%, especially if more cognizant of the risk. It also shifted my stronger risk appetite onto others, and that was en error I usually well avoid. If I had listed every major election pick this year at 5%, we'd be in the black; even last night, splitting 5% bets amidst the 3 elections, would have only been a modest loss, given certain underdog bets hit with Mamdani. As I often say, but forgot here to practice -- bankroll discipline is the most important aspect of successful trading in the markets, sports or politics. 

The psychological error was getting attached to a pick, and not relooking at it from scratch anytime new information arives. A natural tendency is to stay committed to something merely because of prior committment rather than look at it completely anew, and being afraid of taking a loss when once vested in so much hope of a win. 

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  • using the methodological approach of motivated reasoning -- you cannot make reason the master of motivation, but you can use motivation to master reasoning. The Elephant in the Brain. I needed to put myself in a position to take the opposite side of each pick, make the best argument possible for it, and then test it against the other side. In this respect, one way to best maximize this is to include substack-style articles on this site laying out the argument, and letting the community respond -- as several sagely warned in this case, which can dramatically improve the quality of reasoning;
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  • finding a way to better track live-time data on election night by reemploying an older technique from my political campaign days -- prior to the election, predicting the expected % for each county (and key precincts when available) in terms of expected vote share & vote distribution, which can most accurately forecast where an election will go, to get ahead of the markets (the big models out there completely crashed last night, including the $250K new-and-improved Decision Desk model;
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